tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post9068239577891571722..comments2023-08-16T12:07:22.995+00:00Comments on The Daily (Maybe): Joining the conspiracyJim Jeppshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-54344234132190216302008-07-01T07:50:00.000+00:002008-07-01T07:50:00.000+00:00Me too<A HREF="http://www.randomvariable.co.uk/blog/2008/07/01/liberals-conspire-to-what/ " REL="nofollow">Me too</A>Naadir Jeewahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11660067829641636636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-4821446366027878892008-06-29T15:47:00.000+00:002008-06-29T15:47:00.000+00:00My reaction:http://cruellablog.blogspot.com/2008/0...My reaction:<BR/>http://cruellablog.blogspot.com/2008/06/i-woz-ere-too.htmlCruellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03446805038957924958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-65886099725140028232008-06-28T20:52:00.000+00:002008-06-28T20:52:00.000+00:00Thanks Aaron. Actually I never think about the lib...Thanks Aaron. Actually I never think about the libdems as a left option - but I've had two Lib Dem MPs David Howarth and Bob Russell and both of them are very good - not saying I agree with everything obviously. And also a number of libdem supporters or councillors I've met have had clear left of centre positions.<BR/><BR/>One thing I find interesting is that although many libdems come from the left you'll very rarely see them involved in campaigning work outside of the council sphere. So on the war for instance lots are opposed to the occupation but you'd be hard pressed to find libdems in the stop the war coalition or local groups. Same goes for defending council housing.<BR/><BR/>I wonder why that is... electoralism?Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-86300787149594202902008-06-28T19:47:00.000+00:002008-06-28T19:47:00.000+00:00Well I was a very left-wing Lib Dem member but jus...Well I was a very left-wing Lib Dem member but just couldn't stomach Nick Clegg. A lot of Lib Dems believe in a fairer society, and even on the membership card it says that 'people should never be enslaved by poverty or ignorance' but how we get there is a completely issue. For example the party is committed to globalisation and capitalist economics, so I couldn't continue my support. But on issues such as civil liberties/foreign policy they're often pretty good in my opinion.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01530489078188780416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-6640114811632044322008-06-27T16:55:00.000+00:002008-06-27T16:55:00.000+00:00Thanks for this Jess. I do agree that most non-fem...Thanks for this Jess. I do agree that most non-feminist blogs do not talk about gender much - and whilst you look at lolcatz I'll be browsing reddit so I think it's useful to remember that just because someone writes at a political blog that's the only thing they use the net for or the only thing they think about.<BR/><BR/>The point I was trying to raise (I hope gently) was just that there is a gender aspect to almost every question and that this can be brought up, so just as green bloggers should read more widely than just green blogs other bloggers should not just stick to their own "gang", I think cross fertilisation is a powerful thing - however I don't think anyone should feel obliged to go around hobbyhorsing - I know I don't!Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-37118360411425375512008-06-27T15:12:00.000+00:002008-06-27T15:12:00.000+00:00I was (one of?) the people who raised the issue of...I was (one of?) the people who raised the issue of lack of feminist posting on general lefty blogs - of course I don't only read feminist blogs! <BR/><BR/>But I do have to keep on top of quite a significant volume of feminist blogs for The F-Word, which means that I'm probably going to look at LOLCATZ before going out of my way to read UK political blogs that don't seem to have any gender analysis at all (or, rather, an annoying lack thereof)!JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10322627334640771832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-23251640192009702232008-06-27T10:46:00.000+00:002008-06-27T10:46:00.000+00:00JJ - great write-up and thanks for the links to th...JJ - great write-up and thanks for the links to the various other bloggers who were there!<BR/><BR/>There's a reaction from me over at davecole.org.<BR/><BR/>xD.Dave Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14607982331690895063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-66356955046849700622008-06-26T19:45:00.000+00:002008-06-26T19:45:00.000+00:00Yes, I think I mentioned to your Lib Dem friend, I...Yes, I think I mentioned to your Lib Dem friend, I am interested in cooperating with them on PR voting, but it seem to excite him much!Mike Shaughnessyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796480031110991460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-26277611090294861002008-06-26T19:17:00.000+00:002008-06-26T19:17:00.000+00:00Hi Mike, it was good to see you.I never describe m...Hi Mike, it was good to see you.<BR/><BR/>I never describe myself as a liberal - but I know what Sunny means by it so I'm happy with the company. It's interesting to be in a room with left leaning libdems though - be interesting to see if that's a relationship worth developing.Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-13710411025218248552008-06-26T18:46:00.000+00:002008-06-26T18:46:00.000+00:00I enojoyed this event, although I seldom call myse...I enojoyed this event, although I seldom call myself 'liberal'. It was good to meet the different on line current makers amongst the left. Nice drop of wine, too.<BR/><BR/>Mike777<BR/>Green Socialism on Red Pepper.<BR/> http://forums.redpepper.org.uk/index.php/board,22.0.htmlMike Shaughnessyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796480031110991460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-49523760872343708712008-06-26T15:15:00.000+00:002008-06-26T15:15:00.000+00:00I think so - although I don't know if anything's p...I think so - although I don't know if anything's planned right this second... I'll definately advertise it if so because it was well worth going toJim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-14523191272367123842008-06-26T13:36:00.000+00:002008-06-26T13:36:00.000+00:00Do you know if there will be any further meetings/...Do you know if there will be any further meetings/debates and so on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-25694625038046889752008-06-26T11:35:00.000+00:002008-06-26T11:35:00.000+00:00hm - it was very good and I think actually meeting...hm - it was very good and I think actually meeting up in "meatspace" is invaluable to take things up a notch sometimes.<BR/><BR/>The feminist blogging section was very interesting - although I think there seemed to be a slight blurring between women blogging and feminist blogging (not because there can be male feminists, which is what someone said and I'm uncomfortable with) but because some women either blog about other things (like PR or technology thinking of two blogs on my rss feed that spring to mind) or they simply are not feminists (there are lots of tory women bloggers for instance) and it might have been worth teasing those apart. <BR/><BR/>But, alas, we only had three hours!Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-50575888448975335492008-06-26T10:02:00.000+00:002008-06-26T10:02:00.000+00:00I couldn't make the meeting yesterday but am inter...I couldn't make the meeting yesterday but am interested if there are anymore of these discussions.<BR/><BR/>I think, on the issue of feminist and leftie blogs, there is a separateness about them and a kind of never the twain shall meet. And there are many reasons for this. I woulda been interested re the discussion about women/feminist blogging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com