tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post7393023285731208428..comments2023-08-16T12:07:22.995+00:00Comments on The Daily (Maybe): Election results UK (updated)Jim Jeppshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-28496968058517866832007-05-11T07:59:00.000+00:002007-05-11T07:59:00.000+00:00According to the BBC the party was defending 45 se...According to the BBC the party was defending 45 seats - in which case only losing 6 is very good indeed. (RESPECT and the BNP both lost all but one of the seats they were defending.)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the point about defectors. It's a tough one - you almost don't want them to be re-elected. (You want them to bring their vote to the party, but not on the basis of following them as individuals.) It certainly can't surprise anyone if a defector gets defeated the first time he/she has to face the voters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-26989441721961690362007-05-10T21:58:00.000+00:002007-05-10T21:58:00.000+00:00Thanks for that MattThanks for that MattJim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-63681851334349207052007-05-10T18:37:00.000+00:002007-05-10T18:37:00.000+00:00I don't have the full list to hand, but we did los...I don't have the full list to hand, but we did lose some councillors. At least two were defectors who had not been elected as Greens before - the other one that springs to mind was Cllr David Ford in Bradford, who really really deserved to hold his seat - but it was not to be.<BR/><BR/>Apologies that I don't know the exact number.<BR/><BR/>MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-9367252271439487712007-05-10T11:52:00.000+00:002007-05-10T11:52:00.000+00:00That's plausible, but the figures in last Saturday...That's plausible, but the figures in last Saturday's Guardian definitely mentioned some Green losses (by my reckoning it added up to 7 rather than 6, but I may have got that wrong). I'm still curious about how many sitting councillors were up for re-election - I'd guess 20-30, in which case losing 6 wouldn't be at all bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-82321323158384412152007-05-10T11:04:00.000+00:002007-05-10T11:04:00.000+00:00Um, phil, I think 6 of the wins were existing coun...Um, phil, I think 6 of the wins were existing councillors - so they don't count in the net gains pile... I might be wrong but I don't think any exisiting green councillors lost their seats.Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-63191377011110069692007-05-10T10:59:00.000+00:002007-05-10T10:59:00.000+00:00Any idea how many Green councillors were up for re...Any idea how many Green councillors were up for re-election? With 24 new councillors and a net gain of 18 there must have been 6 losses - but 6 out of how many? (For comparison, RESPECT went from 19 councillors to 18, but those figures disguise a high turnover between old and new councillors. 15 of the 19 weren't up for re-election - of the other four, one stood down and two lost. So a net loss of 1 out of 19 was actually a loss of 3 out of 4, offset by a gain of 2.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-90349256349593685562007-05-08T21:32:00.000+00:002007-05-08T21:32:00.000+00:00In Coventry, in addition to the Socialists losing ...In Coventry, in addition to the Socialists losing one of their St Michael's councillors, we saw this odd swing towards Labour (Socialists -1, Lib Dems -1, Tories -2, Labour +4).<BR/><BR/>For the Coventry Greens, we received 8.5% in Wainbody ward (powered by 33% of the vote at the polling station at the University of Warwick), and I managed 13.4% in Earlsdon (with 20% plus at two polling stations). We ran in six other wards, with 4-7% as our results.<BR/><BR/>The BNP received in Coventry received 10% or better in eight wards (they contested 16 of the 18 wards in the city).<BR/><BR/>I also found interesting the Green gains in Glasgow and Edinburgh (the result of the Lib/Lab coalition agreement for PR in local Scottish elections) and Leicester (two Greens finishing 1-2 in Castle ward).scott reddinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16201040172369428187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-24648970343240719262007-05-06T17:06:00.000+00:002007-05-06T17:06:00.000+00:00SWP/Respect only put up only 48 candidates for the...SWP/Respect only put up only 48 candidates for the whole of the country - that's fewer than the Green Party had in Brighton and Hove.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://scandalfax.blogspot.com/2007/05/may-day-news-islam-leaves-respect.html" REL="nofollow">They have also lost one councillor in Tower Hamlets who has defected back to Labour</A>.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675611922168618055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-12663054071060520172007-05-06T15:00:00.000+00:002007-05-06T15:00:00.000+00:00The BNP didn't win as many seats as they might hav...The BNP didn't win as many seats as they might have liked, but seem to have increased their vote in many constituencies.<BR/><BR/>If nothing else, fielding 750 candidates has increased their profile across the country.<BR/><BR/>Around Nottingham they won a seat in Brinsley with an impressive 43% (in a four horse race). This despite anti-fascist activity in the ward.<BR/><BR/>In Kirky they polled around 30% in all three wards, suggesting a sizable base of support.<BR/><BR/>According to the Beeb in some places they received almost twice as many votes as Labour rivals.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully they'll be disappointed by their limited successes and maybe even bankrupt again (as they virtually were after the last Euro elections), but I think Griff & Co are in this for the long haul.Disillusioned kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16161675225308027868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-24739985257503590132007-05-05T12:38:00.000+00:002007-05-05T12:38:00.000+00:00Other big news from Brum is that the Socialist Lab...Other big news from Brum is that the Socialist Labour Party got 1052 votes in Handsworth Wood. That was down to their candidate being John Tyrell- a defector from Labour who's well known and popular in the area.<BR/><BR/>On the BNP- yes and no. I think that progressives certainly should be careful about the ABF (anyone but fascists) strategy- allowing them to present themselves as the only alternative to the establishment could backfire nastily. Equally, I'm not sure the reeling off of their criminal convictions is still effective. On the other hand, one noticable effect from both this and past elections is that they have a lot of trouble holding on to previously won seats. My guess is that's because they're such terrible local councillers, even aside from them being fascist scum. That I think is worth working with, particuarly in areas where they're a threat. A list of how few council meetings they've turned up to etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-78245159854879645702007-05-05T12:29:00.000+00:002007-05-05T12:29:00.000+00:00Yes BNP have had a bad night ... I'm more and more...Yes BNP have had a bad night ... I'm more and more thinking the best electoral strategy to oppose the BNP is to ignor them and build a viable alternative to the neoliberals.<BR/><BR/>The NF... ffs as the kids might say.<BR/><BR/>Incidently the prize of boo goes to newsnight last night who announced the SSP had won a seat after all... in fact they were refering to the independent Margo MacDonald, although she is a bit left wing I believe.Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-45617118218154845422007-05-05T07:21:00.000+00:002007-05-05T07:21:00.000+00:00BNP dropped by 10,000 votes in Birmingham, so good...BNP dropped by 10,000 votes in Birmingham, so good news there. Though of course, one should never be complacent about them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-67778661330345476982007-05-05T01:50:00.000+00:002007-05-05T01:50:00.000+00:00Other left results:The IWCA came last with 144 vot...Other left results:<BR/><BR/>The IWCA came last with 144 votes in Thurrock (West Thurrock & South Stifford was the ward). No Oxford election, so no surprise there's no real news there.<BR/><BR/>According to the AWL site, in Leeds, the Alliance for Green Socialism got around 2.5% of the votes on average. Apart from Chapel Allerton where they got 9.3% of the vote, beating the Green Party. (Will it sound overly sectarian if I suggest 'local conditions' might have had a lot to do with that?)<BR/><BR/>Bad news from Saint Albans where the National Front got a councillor.<BR/><BR/>On a much brighter note, the BNP activists are despondent, although the leadership has started to spin now. They've spent all day on Stormfront wavering between despair and calling the entire British electorate morons. (Which isn't the greatest of electoral strategies. I've screenshotted the posts just in case they come in useful). This may well lead to a leadership challenge against Griffin, which hopefully will tear the party apart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-23460934214291005752007-05-04T14:07:00.000+00:002007-05-04T14:07:00.000+00:00Ta anon - have amended the text slightly...Ta anon - have amended the text slightly...Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1873482164909430662007-05-04T13:59:00.000+00:002007-05-04T13:59:00.000+00:00Actually in cambridge there was one gain for lib d...Actually in cambridge there was one gain for lib dems from labour (Kings Hedges) but also one gain from labour to lib dems (Petersfield)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-9859012490714815402007-05-04T11:00:00.000+00:002007-05-04T11:00:00.000+00:00Thanks for this Jim.Good hold for us in Liverpool....Thanks for this Jim.<BR/><BR/>Good hold for us in Liverpool. Vote up from 25% last year to 38% in St Michaels, with turnout going up over 10% as well.<BR/><BR/>This might be the first time we've had a sitting councillor defect to us from the Lib Dems and us subsequently hold the seat.<BR/><BR/>Really pleased to see the BNP get absolutely stuffed in Liverpool. They stood in 9 seats but went backwards in their target seat of Norris Green.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-40217996864864521842007-05-04T10:58:00.000+00:002007-05-04T10:58:00.000+00:00BTW the Britsol mystery is simple, there was no el...BTW the Britsol mystery is simple, there was no elelction this year in Lockleaze where Jer stood list yearANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05901425044840795347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-92159455425221514512007-05-04T10:56:00.000+00:002007-05-04T10:56:00.000+00:00Mebyon Kernow have definietley held district cooun...Mebyon Kernow have definietley held district coouncil sets in the past.ANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05901425044840795347noreply@blogger.com