tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post115231234460489461..comments2023-08-16T12:07:22.995+00:00Comments on The Daily (Maybe): Men are emotionally retardedJim Jeppshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152396681162841032006-07-08T22:11:00.000+00:002006-07-08T22:11:00.000+00:00Hi Natalie - thanks for visiting and the kind word...Hi Natalie - thanks for visiting and the kind words - you're welcome back anytime :)<BR/><BR/>oh and thanks for clearing up political affiliation - the gossips are always wrong! I did think after writing this that there is a CATHERINE Bennett - maybe she was in Militant (the inaccuracies spread...)Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152395504610150962006-07-08T21:51:00.000+00:002006-07-08T21:51:00.000+00:00Hi Jim. Just to set the record straight, the Green...Hi Jim. Just to set the record straight, the Green Party is the only "political" organisation I've ever been involved with, and indeed I've only lived in Britain for about eight years.<BR/><BR/>Interesting blog - I'll be back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152376251267393802006-07-08T16:30:00.000+00:002006-07-08T16:30:00.000+00:00Hmmm... yes, I'd blocked YR from my memory... I th...Hmmm... yes, I'd blocked YR from my memory... I think you're right of course.<BR/><BR/>But the other point is the left is, thankfully, much larger than Respect - which is why I'm always a little cautious of blaming them for the way the left is as they are just a small part of it.<BR/><BR/>I think the traditional left is having problems with women's issues in particular because the political terrain has changed and they can't adapt - if it doesn't fit the situation in the 1970's they either ignor it or pretend nothing has changed - and I think with women's place in society this has severely wrong footed them/us.Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152375313424740982006-07-08T16:15:00.000+00:002006-07-08T16:15:00.000+00:00JimIt also has Yvonne Ridley .In my earlier post I...Jim<BR/><BR/>It also has Yvonne Ridley .<BR/><BR/>In my earlier post I did say there were women who go along with this. Personally I could not , for me it would be selling out my principles and make socialism, if thats what it would entail, meaningless in terms of a means to having an equal society for men and women and groups who do not fit neatly in.stroppybirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17084299441558297740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152363018598285372006-07-08T12:50:00.000+00:002006-07-08T12:50:00.000+00:00It's rude rude rude to tell people to shut up (eit...It's rude rude rude to tell people to shut up (either literally or metaphorically) - although I will say that Respect has leading women and in particular Salma Yaqoob and Lindsey German what do you say about their role in this?Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152362328071500402006-07-08T12:38:00.000+00:002006-07-08T12:38:00.000+00:00Agree society has moved away and the whole media d...Agree society has moved away and the whole media debate about post feminism and so called 'lap dance' feminism. Feminists need to be more proactive on these issues.<BR/><BR/>But the left is an area that should know better. The opportunistic move away from secularism and to link with people who spout homophobia and sexist statements speaks volumes about how deep any commitemnt ever was to equality issues. I have been in a number of RL and blog debates where male lefties have more or less said shut up about it there are more important issues at stake.stroppybirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17084299441558297740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152359487206735372006-07-08T11:51:00.000+00:002006-07-08T11:51:00.000+00:00Stroppy - there has definately been a slide in the...Stroppy - there has definately been a slide in the last fifteen years (or more) on the left away from "women's issues". But this has definately occurred at the same time as a massive slippage in society in general.<BR/><BR/>The accepting of porn, lap-dancing and prostitution into the mainstream is really noticable I think.<BR/><BR/>Renegade - I couldn't remember who Michelle Malkin was so I found her website... <A HREF="http://www.michellemalkin.com/" REL="nofollow">shudder</A>Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152358378882462302006-07-08T11:32:00.000+00:002006-07-08T11:32:00.000+00:00You can jump directly to Louise's piece hereYou can jump directly to Louise's piece <A HREF="http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/2005/08/left_behind" REL="nofollow">here</A>Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152358074033652372006-07-08T11:27:00.000+00:002006-07-08T11:27:00.000+00:00Louise - re: is it an excuse? Well, when I said at...Louise - re: is it an excuse? <BR/><BR/>Well, when I said at the end that I'm not sure how far it gets us I was recognising exactly this point - if it's genuinely a cultural thing (that's the way men are) then it could be used as a cop out (although I hope I'm not going to use it that way).<BR/><BR/>I think if my little pet theory is true it means we should try to change the culture of the left (or politics more generally) and that the left needs to try to influence the culture more generally.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately we need to fundamentally change society - but I don't believe that means there is nothing we can do closer to home.Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152352643404118592006-07-08T09:57:00.000+00:002006-07-08T09:57:00.000+00:00Louise, you should update it and put it on stroppy...Louise, you should update it and put it on stroppyblog.....stroppybirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17084299441558297740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152349375223741732006-07-08T09:02:00.000+00:002006-07-08T09:02:00.000+00:00"is that men are just more likely to be emotionall..."is that men are just more likely to be emotionally retarded than women"<BR/><BR/>Jim, is the above a bit of an excuse? Can't help it as I am emotionally screwed philosophy? The Left like the rest of society reflects the power relationships which exist. The Left is not sealed tightly from conditioning whether on a conscious or unconscious level...<BR/><BR/>Btw: Self-promotion Jim, sorry, but I wrote a piece for the feminist website, The F Word, on the Left, women and feminism some time again. the website is www.thefword.org.uk and it is called Left Behind - should be in Nov archive 2005Louisefeministahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08279991897445225597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152345282463291882006-07-08T07:54:00.000+00:002006-07-08T07:54:00.000+00:00What I find most depressing is often being in the ...What I find most depressing is often being in the position of arguing why womens/LBGT and other equalities issues should be part and parcel of the fight for socialism.<BR/><BR/>I feel a lot of damage has been done recently by sections of the left sidelining and dropping these principles when it is expedient. <BR/><BR/>It feels likeion the left, although I accept many seem happy to go along with it.<BR/><BR/>The attitude often is that we need to deal with the 'real' issues and womens stuff will somehow just get sorted along the way. Given the attitude and behaviour of some of the men on the left I very much doubt that.<BR/><BR/>The blogs reflect the left in general. The issues you raise think apply to both blogs and the 'real' world.<BR/><BR/>btw thanks for the link in this piece to stroppyblog :-)stroppybirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17084299441558297740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30598467.post-1152322195959597362006-07-08T01:29:00.000+00:002006-07-08T01:29:00.000+00:00We need a lefty Michelle Malkin.We need a lefty Michelle Malkin.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.com